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Michael DAmbrosio's avatar

Dr. Fenyves, wonderful essay, and while this is the first I have heard it framed as "intensity mismatch", this certainly resonates without how I have chosen providers for myself and children and how my wife approaches her patients as a surgeon.

However, I am not convinced that Intensity Mismatch is why people have started to ignore the CDC.

The public was initially very receptive to the CDC guidance as evidenced by the strong uptake of the original series of vaccines and having one of the highest masking rates among Western countries.

The public stopped listening to the CDC because their claims have been falsified. Everyone who got vaccinated got Covid anyway. Kids in schools without masks had no different outcome than kids in masks. Every single highly vaccinated country in the world saw all-cause mortality increase after vaccinations. South Korea, once considered the model of how to fight the pandemic, with their GPS contact tracing, rolling lockdowns, mask devotion, vaccination rates, and CCTV surveillance state, now how the highest excess mortality in the world, after all-cause mortality jumped to +100% this past spring.

The CDC lost trust because it made it made incredible claims, and it turned out they were wrong, and not once has admitted error, or shown the slightest bit of humility. Instead, the agency doubles down and gaslights (see the recent fact checks on "we never said the vaccines would halt transmission").

If we saw chicken pox explode after the varicella vaccine was introduced in the 90's, you wouldn't be surprised that people stopped giving their kids the varicella vaccine.

We can't be surprised that only 10% of the public is seeking dose 4 or 5 after covid blew up in Vermont, Denmark, Japan, Israel, etc after vaccinating the public.

Had the CDC moderated intensity from the start, their credibility wouldn't be in ruins, but I am not sure this approach can help now. I'm honestly not sure what can be done, though starting with Dr. Prasad's Oct 31 piece "Pandemic accountability" is a good start.

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Dr. K's avatar

Interesting analysis. I agree with D'Ambrosio that this may be in part an intensity mismatch but is far, far more the fact that the CDC has routinely just outright lied (or skewed the data to accomplish the same thing -- think Arizona school study) and people got wise to them pretty quickly. Publishing in non-peer reviewed MMWR is not helpful because many of those articles are instantly uncredible when the data is examined -- it has become just a shill piece container. (As a many decade subscriber, makes me sad.)

Also, I have to underscore Vinay's pooh-pooh of your mask thoughts. I would love to see credible mask literature (and please do not give me Boston schools, Arizona schools, Bangladesh -- all studies easily refutable from their own data/methodologies) that shows that there is actually a credible effect from masking adults, much less children. Even mask studies in the OR show virtually no advantages. I have hundreds of articles filed that show the reverse (null value to masking for viruses) -- especially in any situation other than a mannequin in a sterile room. I have seen essentially none that can make the counterpoint. Will you please post the references?

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