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It remains obvious that the human mind cannot rationally integrate the meaning of statistics for the most part. This is something we need to examine and determine on a societal basis. If we spend inordinate amounts of dollars on the health of 80+ year olds - even when we have good evidence that the testing we are doing is not changing anything re: longevity - we have less resources to focus on younger people. It is clear that both physicians and their patients have personal bias ingrained that is difficult to overcome. Add to that the extreme arm-twisting message we've given patients (and physicians) for the past 20 years: all driven by quality metrics that force physicians to make sure all their patients have said screenings done (the voracity with which we've chased and admonished people to get their <mammogram, colonoscopy, blood testing> have given all of us the sense that you'd be unwise not to comply - in fact, it makes us all very uneasy if patients don't agree to do their screenings).

So now, as a society, we are dealing with the fallout of the age of Quality Metrics arm-twisting. People (and physicians) will not just change their mind and see things in a more rational and measured manner.

We need public health to make some firm guidelines that should be followed. Patients should be given clearly written statements re: pros/cons of the available screening tests and their potential risk for developing these conditions. they can ask their physician for input if needed. And follow guidelines that make sense on the larger scale. Patients then make up their own mind on what makes sense to them, within the general guidelines.

It is a waste of physician time to talk a 94 year old woman out of doing a mammogram. Why do I need to do that?

I find it unsettling that we have let our society evolve to a point where young people don't want to have children for the sake of "overpopulation" and climate change, where not all of them know their blood pressure or their blood sugars as they may not have health insurance or the time to go see a doctor, yet we want to make sure the 80+ year olds are perpetually screened and studied: even when there is clear evidence this is not helpful. Makes you go "hmmmm"...

And points out a major negative consequence of "Quality Metrics" in the first place. Who'd a thought?

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The recent data from JAMA on the results from the WISDOM study in breast cancer also echoes- this using mammogram to screen all women for breast cancer does not show mortality benefit in the way that risk based mainly genetics and family history screening does. But between clinical guidelines emphasizing population health and hospital economics incentivizing screening (all covered under the ACA, guaranteed payment), it's going to take a long time to track towards risk-based screening.

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