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Peaches LeToure's avatar

I am not a cardiologist, but I seem to remember being told that beta blockers don't improve mortality. They improve blood pressure (and reduce heart rate, of course). People don't live longer, they just die with "normal" blood pressure. Does this then imply that neither beta blockers nor surgical intervention improves mortality? Yes, I realize that it was not just beta blockers that were given to people in the medical arm of this study.

I wonder about the effective of much of what we offer as medical providers. It would be nice if there was a non-medical, non-surgical arm of the trial where people were coached on exercise appropriate to their health and coached on nutrition. That being said, if I was the patient, I would probably opt for an intervention of some sort out of fear. Which just goes to show the power that doctors have over patients in poor health.

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Daniel Hall's avatar

In addition to deaths, I'd like to know if there were significant differences regarding quality of life between the two groups?

Were there any significant differences between the groups on how far they both able to walk without getting breathless. Did one group require more oxygen support, more "rescue" hospitalizations due to pulmonary edema, ascites ... ?

It's one thing to be alive and able to get out for a mile walk without stopping and another to be alive but housebound while tethered to an O2 generator with low quality of life.

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