Serious question. How is this any different than the average pharmaceutical shill GP?
"The science" is 100% certain that dietary and lifestyle changes can have huge effects on things like depression, obviously weight loss, and most other afflictions given cause to visit the clinic. That is rarely discussed.
Dr Cifu only thing I would add is this Snake Oil Dr Salesman actually delivers a product (good or bad ) .In Capitalism its called buyer beware! In Politics we support snake oil salesman that deliver absolutely NOTHING to their constituents ,and gain everything for themselves .When greed and contempt for each other is somehow eliminated ,maybe then Capitalism will be a functioning economic theory that Correctly Works for All .
I recall a commercial for skin care products designed by a dermatologist where she states: "you can't argue with clinical results" or something like that. That statement sounds really good to the uninformed except she offers NO evidence of efficacy, i.e., the statement has nothing to do with the product.
He got some pretty scathing Google reviews. There are a lot of dermatologists who are doctorpreneurs. It's probably easier in that field than others. Unfortunately some doctors care more about making money than anything else. That said, I think maybe some have become frustrated with all of the insurance bullshit and I see more are becoming concierge doctors. I think as the healthcare industry keeps evolving, the number of doctorpreneurs will increase. sabrinalabow.substack.com
In the current vast network of "doctorpreneurs", I'd say skin care products are the very least egregious of the bunch. People (mainly women) shop for and use a wide variety of skin care products and make choices on what they like and buy. There are so many skin care lines, I have to give some credit to a doc to jump into that fray (there must be little guarantee of success as the market is saturated). Almost every dermatologist sells various skin care products in their office (maybe not their own personal line, but they make money on it). Honestly, not such a big deal. There are many doctorpreneurs who join MLM companies to sell skin care products as well (Neora et al) - they don't develop anything, they just tout spectacular results and sell it.
The doctorpreneurs I find more unsettling are in the recent surge of "functional medicine" proponents. Where is the data for the extensive lab (and stool) tests they recommend, the supplements, the podcasts they start, the books they write, on and on and on. There are some big celebrity types (I won't mention all the names) and then there are hundreds more who have smaller followings, websites, IG accounts, etc. All monetizing their MD degrees to promote "better health!" This preys on fears and gets many patients to buy supplements, etc.
There are many docs who don't even practice medicine any longer and just focus on being "lifestyle" coaches. Do you really need an MD degree to encourage healthy eating? Who then turn around and accuse the rest of us still in the fray of "focusing on illness instead of health and prevention!"
There are doctors selling wearable technology - CGMs, etc. There are doctors telling people they are killing themselves if they don't sleep 8 hours a night. Again - lots of money to be made with books, courses, supplements, devices.
How do we even classify certain celebrity docs (Eric Topol?) - those who use their status and reach to push all kinds of agendas.
I find all of these to be so much worse than a nondescript skin cream.
I get that same dirty feeling you speak of. It feels anathema to what we are supposed to be doing as physicians.
Brings to mind a song…
“It dont seem to me quite so funny
What some people are gonna do for money
There’s a brand new gimmick everyday
Just to take somebody’s money away”
— Bob Dylan, Talkin Bear Mountain Picnic Massacre Blues
But this is a different kind of dirty than doctors who take money from pharma/device implant, recommend said drug/device, and then the taxpayer foots the bill for the house in the hamptons.
The fact that that sort of behaviour sits poorly with you, as a doctor, is a testament to the calibre of Dr and human being you are. Unfortunately, there are more "mo money" Drs and healthcare professionals today, than there are of your type.😐🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
I remember a pain doc in northern Indiana getting all bent out of shape because I was calling out all these docs getting paid by pharma to promote their “non addictive” pain medicines. This was the height of the opiate prescribing phase before the cartels took advantage and started their own competition. This guy was REALLY pissed because I told a large group to follow the money as to why a fentanyl lollipop was suggested for CNCP - even though it was approved for cancer pain only. Does it shock anyone that he was making a large amount of money from pharma? Yeah, I exposed that too. I had no skin in the money game but I sure hated to see patients suffer from this kind of doctorpreneurship! Not on my watch!
Pretend medical advances = more sickness and diseases than ever. I am not believing that doctors are in the game for anything other than the big buckaroos.
I greatly respect the doctors involved in the Wellness Company but, really, where are the data that a nattokinase- based protocol eg their Spike Support rids the body of spike protein?https://www.twc.health/products/long-haul-formula
Profit motive in medicine...whatever could go wrong? Any issues that the market can't police I'm sure our regulatory bodies will be up to the challenge. Just keep aware of any conflicts of interest and any plays at regulatory capture and I'm sure the US will have the best quality of life money can buy for the people that have it.
I try to avoid the term "capitalism" because the distortions of the collectivists have turned it into a pejorative label (as is evident in some of the comments below). Free market or voluntary society are more descriptive labels. This doctor is selling a product that we suspect has little or no scientific evidence behind it. Well it takes two to tango. There must be buyers naive enough to fall for the promotional scheme. If we condemn the doctor for exploiting his title to sell a useless product, we should apply the same judgement to others doing the same thing. For example, many or most doctors prescribe drugs to lower blood cholesterol levels despite the absence of proof that it does any good at all. Should they be labelled hucksters or snake oil salesmen?
The NYT article mentions a 49-year-old woman who loves doctor-endorsed skin products: When she’s shopping, she said in a phone interview, she looks for “Doctor things paired with clinical research that shows results.”
Uh sorry Susan, there is no clinical research behind this doc's products.
Serious question. How is this any different than the average pharmaceutical shill GP?
"The science" is 100% certain that dietary and lifestyle changes can have huge effects on things like depression, obviously weight loss, and most other afflictions given cause to visit the clinic. That is rarely discussed.
Dr Cifu only thing I would add is this Snake Oil Dr Salesman actually delivers a product (good or bad ) .In Capitalism its called buyer beware! In Politics we support snake oil salesman that deliver absolutely NOTHING to their constituents ,and gain everything for themselves .When greed and contempt for each other is somehow eliminated ,maybe then Capitalism will be a functioning economic theory that Correctly Works for All .
I recall a commercial for skin care products designed by a dermatologist where she states: "you can't argue with clinical results" or something like that. That statement sounds really good to the uninformed except she offers NO evidence of efficacy, i.e., the statement has nothing to do with the product.
He got some pretty scathing Google reviews. There are a lot of dermatologists who are doctorpreneurs. It's probably easier in that field than others. Unfortunately some doctors care more about making money than anything else. That said, I think maybe some have become frustrated with all of the insurance bullshit and I see more are becoming concierge doctors. I think as the healthcare industry keeps evolving, the number of doctorpreneurs will increase. sabrinalabow.substack.com
In the current vast network of "doctorpreneurs", I'd say skin care products are the very least egregious of the bunch. People (mainly women) shop for and use a wide variety of skin care products and make choices on what they like and buy. There are so many skin care lines, I have to give some credit to a doc to jump into that fray (there must be little guarantee of success as the market is saturated). Almost every dermatologist sells various skin care products in their office (maybe not their own personal line, but they make money on it). Honestly, not such a big deal. There are many doctorpreneurs who join MLM companies to sell skin care products as well (Neora et al) - they don't develop anything, they just tout spectacular results and sell it.
The doctorpreneurs I find more unsettling are in the recent surge of "functional medicine" proponents. Where is the data for the extensive lab (and stool) tests they recommend, the supplements, the podcasts they start, the books they write, on and on and on. There are some big celebrity types (I won't mention all the names) and then there are hundreds more who have smaller followings, websites, IG accounts, etc. All monetizing their MD degrees to promote "better health!" This preys on fears and gets many patients to buy supplements, etc.
There are many docs who don't even practice medicine any longer and just focus on being "lifestyle" coaches. Do you really need an MD degree to encourage healthy eating? Who then turn around and accuse the rest of us still in the fray of "focusing on illness instead of health and prevention!"
There are doctors selling wearable technology - CGMs, etc. There are doctors telling people they are killing themselves if they don't sleep 8 hours a night. Again - lots of money to be made with books, courses, supplements, devices.
How do we even classify certain celebrity docs (Eric Topol?) - those who use their status and reach to push all kinds of agendas.
I find all of these to be so much worse than a nondescript skin cream.
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I get that same dirty feeling you speak of. It feels anathema to what we are supposed to be doing as physicians.
Brings to mind a song…
“It dont seem to me quite so funny
What some people are gonna do for money
There’s a brand new gimmick everyday
Just to take somebody’s money away”
— Bob Dylan, Talkin Bear Mountain Picnic Massacre Blues
But this is a different kind of dirty than doctors who take money from pharma/device implant, recommend said drug/device, and then the taxpayer foots the bill for the house in the hamptons.
At least this guy is charging cash.
The fact that that sort of behaviour sits poorly with you, as a doctor, is a testament to the calibre of Dr and human being you are. Unfortunately, there are more "mo money" Drs and healthcare professionals today, than there are of your type.😐🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
I remember a pain doc in northern Indiana getting all bent out of shape because I was calling out all these docs getting paid by pharma to promote their “non addictive” pain medicines. This was the height of the opiate prescribing phase before the cartels took advantage and started their own competition. This guy was REALLY pissed because I told a large group to follow the money as to why a fentanyl lollipop was suggested for CNCP - even though it was approved for cancer pain only. Does it shock anyone that he was making a large amount of money from pharma? Yeah, I exposed that too. I had no skin in the money game but I sure hated to see patients suffer from this kind of doctorpreneurship! Not on my watch!
Pretend medical advances = more sickness and diseases than ever. I am not believing that doctors are in the game for anything other than the big buckaroos.
I greatly respect the doctors involved in the Wellness Company but, really, where are the data that a nattokinase- based protocol eg their Spike Support rids the body of spike protein?https://www.twc.health/products/long-haul-formula
Every supplement sold on that website is snake oil
Could be. Interesting that you think statins are beneficial as primary prevention, not what I currently believe from my look at the literature
Profit motive in medicine...whatever could go wrong? Any issues that the market can't police I'm sure our regulatory bodies will be up to the challenge. Just keep aware of any conflicts of interest and any plays at regulatory capture and I'm sure the US will have the best quality of life money can buy for the people that have it.
I try to avoid the term "capitalism" because the distortions of the collectivists have turned it into a pejorative label (as is evident in some of the comments below). Free market or voluntary society are more descriptive labels. This doctor is selling a product that we suspect has little or no scientific evidence behind it. Well it takes two to tango. There must be buyers naive enough to fall for the promotional scheme. If we condemn the doctor for exploiting his title to sell a useless product, we should apply the same judgement to others doing the same thing. For example, many or most doctors prescribe drugs to lower blood cholesterol levels despite the absence of proof that it does any good at all. Should they be labelled hucksters or snake oil salesmen?
Yes.
The NYT article mentions a 49-year-old woman who loves doctor-endorsed skin products: When she’s shopping, she said in a phone interview, she looks for “Doctor things paired with clinical research that shows results.”
Uh sorry Susan, there is no clinical research behind this doc's products.