Thank you, David. It still shocks me that making your completely reasonable points, based on the data itself, takes courage - but that is public health today in the US. Thank you for your courage.
Thanks for thoughtful writing. Weren't myocarditis cases then roughly 8/50,000 boys, and 1/50,000 girls? This further changes the comparison of rates.
And it is not trivial that we count all vaccine doses and myocarditis events (we have a semi accurate numerator and denominator), but nowhere near all covid cases (we don’t really know the denominator on the hospitalizations per covid case calculation). Asymptomatic infection and people who just don’t get tested are likely huge numbers, and if somehow included, would lower the rate of hospitalizations per covid infection. Also the hospitalization numerator is in question. Hospitalized WITH covid, or BECAUSE OF covid (admitted for elective surgery and screen positive for covid, vs. admitted in respiratory failure due to secretions and covid stuff).
So myocarditis : vaccines vs. hospitalization : covid comparisons with the above adjustments look even worse for vaccine in this age group of boys.
DA - you compared myo hosp rate of 9 per 100k to a peak 2.1 per 100k COVID hosp rate. Is it fair to say the risk was 4x higher for myo? Isn’t the COVID hosp rate a weekly #? Thanks for speaking up. We know the COVID hosp rate was overstated by not excluding “with COVID” vs “from COVID”
"I trusted our public health and medical institutions blindly in the early pandemic, based on my perception of an impressive track record and rigorous peer review."
I remember when I first learned "rigorous peer review" was a fantasy, almost as sad as the day I found about Santa Claus.
Welcome David, you have a bright future ahead of you.
Would be relevant to hear from an EP on the topic - where’s Mandrola on this one? Assuming “everything heals with a scar”, what are the long-term implications?
DA, Thank you for these thoughts and the courage to stand behind them with your by-line. Writers who choose anonymity, and critics/comment writers with outlandish, nonsensical names lessen the impact of their words and thoughts.
Thank you, David. It still shocks me that making your completely reasonable points, based on the data itself, takes courage - but that is public health today in the US. Thank you for your courage.
Thanks for thoughtful writing. Weren't myocarditis cases then roughly 8/50,000 boys, and 1/50,000 girls? This further changes the comparison of rates.
And it is not trivial that we count all vaccine doses and myocarditis events (we have a semi accurate numerator and denominator), but nowhere near all covid cases (we don’t really know the denominator on the hospitalizations per covid case calculation). Asymptomatic infection and people who just don’t get tested are likely huge numbers, and if somehow included, would lower the rate of hospitalizations per covid infection. Also the hospitalization numerator is in question. Hospitalized WITH covid, or BECAUSE OF covid (admitted for elective surgery and screen positive for covid, vs. admitted in respiratory failure due to secretions and covid stuff).
So myocarditis : vaccines vs. hospitalization : covid comparisons with the above adjustments look even worse for vaccine in this age group of boys.
DA - you compared myo hosp rate of 9 per 100k to a peak 2.1 per 100k COVID hosp rate. Is it fair to say the risk was 4x higher for myo? Isn’t the COVID hosp rate a weekly #? Thanks for speaking up. We know the COVID hosp rate was overstated by not excluding “with COVID” vs “from COVID”
"I trusted our public health and medical institutions blindly in the early pandemic, based on my perception of an impressive track record and rigorous peer review."
I remember when I first learned "rigorous peer review" was a fantasy, almost as sad as the day I found about Santa Claus.
Welcome David, you have a bright future ahead of you.
Would be relevant to hear from an EP on the topic - where’s Mandrola on this one? Assuming “everything heals with a scar”, what are the long-term implications?
DA, Thank you for these thoughts and the courage to stand behind them with your by-line. Writers who choose anonymity, and critics/comment writers with outlandish, nonsensical names lessen the impact of their words and thoughts.