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Linda's avatar

During my cancer journey, I learned that many studies are designed to create more drugs, not to uncover true causes or cures. I’m a cancer rebel: diagnosed with “incurable” CNS lymphoma, I walked away from toxic treatment six weeks in after tracing it to a chronic dental infection—and my body healed itself. I still struggle to understand why anyone would participate in, let alone take pride in, faulty research—except for the money, the money, the money.

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Wabi Sabi's avatar

Is it better to die quickly of a bleeding (GIT or haemorraghic strike) or more slowly from an embolic stroke? Of no difference in survival rates i wonder about days lost to disability with two options?

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Carlos Valladares's avatar

Great analysis, very educational!!!

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Sensible PCP's avatar

Dr. Makary posted on LinkedIn that the FDA has been hard at work “removing petroleum food dyes from the U.S. food supply & other chemicals.” Using the critical appraisal skills I learned from here and articles like this, I found that there is no high grade evidence that such dyes and chemicals are causing harm, nor that removing them will provide significant benefit. It sounds like the great EBM hope of Drs. Makary and Prasad did not survive the incompetence of RFK Jr.

My only hope is Sensible readers will apply the same level of critical appraisal in this article and others like it to more than COVID vaccines and mandates even when it doesn’t fit their political agendas.

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Reg Edward's avatar

Now someone please explain the rot in the medico -industrial complex . How did it pass the peer reviewers at JAMA?

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Jim Healthy's avatar

In plain English, is the Watchman superior to anticoagulants in preventing stroke in patients with recurrent AF?

Does lifelong anticoagulants damage the kidneys?

This is for a poor, ignorant layperson. Thanks.

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toolate's avatar

Any COI here for the authors...this is downright scary

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Steve Cheung's avatar

I think the choice of ACM can be both criticized and defended in the context of an observational study. Since it is black and white, there can be no ambiguity and no misclassification bias. And it eliminates the effects of residual and unmeasured confounding. However, as you note, competing risks is the issue. The authors are damned either way. Their first poor choice was to do an observational study at all. Having made that choice, it is what it is.

The main problem is the immediate separation of the curves. It is simply not biologically plausible. You’ve often mentioned the study which demonstrated how (to paraphrase) an observational dataset could be analyzed 100 different ways, to yield 100 different results. This is one where the authors ought to have seen their results, recognized it to be nonsense, and said “maybe we do this a different way”. Instead, they published something that is ridiculous on its face.

But your conclusion hits nail on head. The authors can study whatever they want, and submit whatever they want. That this study made it through the editors and peer reviewers at JAMA, to appear as a finished item in its current state, belies the rot in the medico-industrial complex. It does in fact seem nefarious to me.

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Jorge Gonzalez's avatar

Previous conclusions/reports of studies on LAAC(Watchman) vs DOACs excluding procedural bleeding events from the analysis and also reporting benefit in reducing strokes including patients that didn’t receive the device added to this observational report are misleading/biased. I hope that the Factor-XI “antagonists” are finally approved for clinical use in A. Fib. for anything sensible to be scientifically discussed for this patient population.

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Bernie Black's avatar

The point that some results should show up right away, but others should appear only slowly, is generalizable to many other studies.

In my own work on the impact of health insurance on health, there are many observational studies, with difference-in-difference designs, and even an RCT (Goldin et al., Quarterly Journal of Economics 2021) showing large immediate reduction in mortality for the newly insured. No one asks: What is the causal channel for an immediate effect?

Bernie Black (Northwestern Univ.)

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Sahar Leene's avatar

I started reading this study and stopped when I read the methods. It was either designed by a med student or mathematician being intentionally obtuse

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Joseph Marine, MD's avatar

Great discussion. This remains a murky area of AF management which needs more study.

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Michael Maggio MD's avatar

What’s the chance?

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Robird's avatar

It would appear that the authors demonstrate significant motivated reasoning. Could it be that those performing the LAAO procedure are benefiting the most from widespread adoption?

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