Thank you for this discussion. During my 40 years as a pediatrician I have had 3 children who did not feel “right” in their body. All presented by the age of 3. Speaking to others in my field the numbers are similar. I am not talking about the young adolescents for whom there was no prior history. Abigail Schrier writes about this phenom…
Thank you for this discussion. During my 40 years as a pediatrician I have had 3 children who did not feel “right” in their body. All presented by the age of 3. Speaking to others in my field the numbers are similar. I am not talking about the young adolescents for whom there was no prior history. Abigail Schrier writes about this phenomenon which is an adolescent psychiatric/social issue akin to anorexia. The most destructive part is the inability to treat these feelings as any other psychological issue ie discuss feelings, options, approaches. There is no doubt that questioning the current dogma is an uphill battle. I have experienced it myself. Even before Covid when I pointed out to a head of a transgender clinic in CT that European countries are questioning the adolescent transgender surge I was curtly cut off that there are no questions. I think there should always be questions. That at least leads to a discussion.
The ones who present very young are better understood...mostly they "desisted" by mature adulthood. A recent paper summarizing this is Singh, Bradley, Zucker, 2021.
In addition, it is unknown how to determine which of those were the ones who didn't, ahead of time, and it is unknown if those who didn't desist and then did have medical intervention, benefited. (What could go wrong?)
The two studies that were used as the basis for medical interventions for minors are the "Dutch studies". A summary of what is understood about those studies now is https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/0092623X.2022.2150346 . It is unclear about the long term outcomes of these patients.
What is known is that the majority do tend to grow up to be gay or lesbian (not all!).
Genuinely curious, how does a 2 year old explain to you their sense of not feeling right in their body and how this feeling must be tied to their genitalia? As a pediatrician of only 10 years or so, as well as a parent of several, I’m generally happy if kids can say two word combinations by age 2 and start to learn their colors…
What I meant by this is that at that age these boys (my patients were all boys) showed a decided preference for dressing in dresses, wearing pinks and purples, playing with dolls, and playing with girls despite having more traditional role models. This is a process obviously .
Those younger-presenting patients are likely more in line with the kids who comprised the first Dutch cohort that established pediatric gender medicine starting in the mid-1990s. Shrier's book concerns a more recent phenomenon of the adolescent-presenting youths, mostly natal girls. They're the ones who prompted the controversial ROGD paper by Lisa Littman. See: https://benryan.substack.com/p/controversial-gender-researchers
Thank you for this discussion. During my 40 years as a pediatrician I have had 3 children who did not feel “right” in their body. All presented by the age of 3. Speaking to others in my field the numbers are similar. I am not talking about the young adolescents for whom there was no prior history. Abigail Schrier writes about this phenomenon which is an adolescent psychiatric/social issue akin to anorexia. The most destructive part is the inability to treat these feelings as any other psychological issue ie discuss feelings, options, approaches. There is no doubt that questioning the current dogma is an uphill battle. I have experienced it myself. Even before Covid when I pointed out to a head of a transgender clinic in CT that European countries are questioning the adolescent transgender surge I was curtly cut off that there are no questions. I think there should always be questions. That at least leads to a discussion.
The ones who present very young are better understood...mostly they "desisted" by mature adulthood. A recent paper summarizing this is Singh, Bradley, Zucker, 2021.
In addition, it is unknown how to determine which of those were the ones who didn't, ahead of time, and it is unknown if those who didn't desist and then did have medical intervention, benefited. (What could go wrong?)
The two studies that were used as the basis for medical interventions for minors are the "Dutch studies". A summary of what is understood about those studies now is https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/0092623X.2022.2150346 . It is unclear about the long term outcomes of these patients.
What is known is that the majority do tend to grow up to be gay or lesbian (not all!).
The cultish demand for absolute adherence to orthodoxy is pathognomonic for “woke”.
“ All presented by the age of 3.”
Genuinely curious, how does a 2 year old explain to you their sense of not feeling right in their body and how this feeling must be tied to their genitalia? As a pediatrician of only 10 years or so, as well as a parent of several, I’m generally happy if kids can say two word combinations by age 2 and start to learn their colors…
What I meant by this is that at that age these boys (my patients were all boys) showed a decided preference for dressing in dresses, wearing pinks and purples, playing with dolls, and playing with girls despite having more traditional role models. This is a process obviously .
Those younger-presenting patients are likely more in line with the kids who comprised the first Dutch cohort that established pediatric gender medicine starting in the mid-1990s. Shrier's book concerns a more recent phenomenon of the adolescent-presenting youths, mostly natal girls. They're the ones who prompted the controversial ROGD paper by Lisa Littman. See: https://benryan.substack.com/p/controversial-gender-researchers