Can we please just get to the part where a sensible detective or a medical ANYTHING who actually cares to get to the bottom of this issue compares ALL the things? ALL. OF. THE. THINGS.
Age
birth weight
diet
season
typical sleep position
that night’s sleep position
bedclothes (and all that other BS)
co-sleeping
LAST ROUND OF VACCINES and WHICH ONES, SPECIFICALLY
NUMBER of and TYPE of previous vaccines, and their neurotoxic ingredients
Does the child have the MTHFR GENE?
*deeeep sigh*
Any statistician could graph that out 6 ways to Sunday and tell you exactly what is most likely to have occurred and how to prevent it 96% of the time.
The sooner the powers that be simply ask investigators as well as the people who input insurance data such as “Last pediatrician visit and what was the reason for it”, the sooner people can stop doing mental gymnastics and gaslighting those of us who already KNOW the deal.
PS Don’t take out any stock on those ridiculously stupid helmets for misshapen heads on account of back sleeping.
Don’t think too long and hard how every other land mammal in God’s creation sleeps in “pig piles”/“puppy piles” yet they NEVER die, no matter how many wadded up sheets and blankets and puppies they are sleeping on.
Oh, yeah, while you’re finally
looking at the real issues, take a gander at when those ridiculous helmets were put into “normal”, everyday use.
The fact that the entire house of cards has stood this long is mind-bending. I may need one of those helmets myself.
But we give more vaccines, not less, than we did before. You seem like you’ve already made up your mind even though the study you have asked to be designed hasn’t been conducted. If the study you designed came back and showed vaccines had no correlation or significance with relation to vaccines would you put that concern to rest? How you answer that question will tell you whether or not you really care about the truth
The risk factor paradigm of disease causation has never shed any light on any disease one can name. It has led to more blind alleys of medical research but has been a boon for the researchers. Correlations can be found but causes are rarely, if ever, proven with even the slightest degree of scientific validity. Often the data being analyzed are subject to a high degree of error and that would appear to be the case with the SIDs research.
With my first baby (1984) I was told that she should sleep on her tummy. She preferred her back. So I let her nap on her back and put her down at night on her tummy. She slept with us half the time, and after nursing I scooted her up and out of the way on her tummy.
With my last baby (1989) I was told that he should sleep on his side. I tried it. Didn’t work. He slept how he wanted to sleep. All of our children slept with us on a regular basis in addition to the bassinet or crib.
One issue that was not addressed here is the occurrence of SIDS proximal to the regular vaccine schedule. Risk factors are skewed by not addressing this fact. The link has been studied, albeit in a limited manner, and the possibility of a link is unpopular in the present day and age.
The number of deaths attributable to SIDS, which is a diagnosis made after reasonably excluding all other causes, decreased in the US when these deaths were re-classified as asphyxia - either positional, due to unsafe bedding or co-sleeping with an adult. Co-sleeping related deaths were especially associated with adult use of alcohol and/or sedatives including opioids (either prescribed or illegal). In addition - co-sleeping adult obesity, with its attendant sleep disorders, has been noted.
The type of bedding is also implicated - including babies put to sleep on a sofa where they may fall between cushions or on waterbeds.
Getting this information after an infant death is complicated. Parents and caregivers are distraught but may also deny the above mentioned risk factors and death investigation is often incomplete.
Intentional asphyxia usually cannot be proven unless the act is witnessed or a confession elicited.
Nevertheless, when the role of risky co-sleeping and hazardous bedding, together with signs of asphyxia were reasonably sufficient to make a determination of 'positional asphyxia' whether accidental, undetermined or intentional, the overall number of SIDS cases appear to have decreased.
These objective findings clearly made people uncomfortable and had significant sociological implications. The campaign to 'put baby on its back' coincided and was a much friendlier message.
Vaccines in babies is the biggest risk factor for SIDS and that it isn’t even examined in this article is laughable at best and extremely inaccurate at worst. The term gaslighting would be well used in this article.
As mentioned by another poster, The Midwestern Doctor’s analysis is much better and accurate on SIDS.
This article is anything BUT sensible medicine. I’d go else were for good, credible medical information.
Exactly! That was my first thought. It was completely missing in the "list" of factors. It's my understanding vaccine status and timing is not disclosed or tracked in the autopsy. Wonder why?
"The authors seem not to have followed up on usual sleep position during the 10-week phone interview, which would have been helpful as 70% of the SIDS infants died after the 10-week mark".
Right after the first big onslaught at 8 weeks of age: HepB dose 2, Rotavirus, Dtap, Hib, Pneumococcal, and Polio. All in a single sitting.
It is a MAJOR oversight, and wilful blindness, not to consider this likely factor in any discussion of SIDS.
I remember seeing an interview with a number of Police Officers who stated that in a full 50% of SIDS cases they are called out to, the infant had been administered vaccines shortly before death.
Surely many have seen A Midwestern Doctor's post that touches upon this and lays out the timing of Sids to the typical vaccine schedule of a child. How is this not mentioned in any/all articles touching upon this decades long 'mystery'?
Because that is a bizarre site with no legitimacy. LBJ held a meeting in the White House in 1968 to plot the genocide of the poor? England in the 1930's killed thousands of Irish orphanage children in vaccine experiments? Ireland had been independent of England for more than a decade so seems hard to believe it could have happened. Of course, the reason given for the DPT related mass murder was "England hated the Irish," so I suppose it must be true.
The history of experimentation with vaccines in the US is questionable to the degree even Offit says as much in his book vaccinated. So the idea less than ethical experimentation was going on in Ireland doesn't strike me as far fetched. Do you have a quote for where AMD says its because 'England hated the Irish? Because that is not the style of the substack at all. The material strives to be measured and not offer speculative motives as much as simply report the news of what happened.
Can we please just get to the part where a sensible detective or a medical ANYTHING who actually cares to get to the bottom of this issue compares ALL the things? ALL. OF. THE. THINGS.
Age
birth weight
diet
season
typical sleep position
that night’s sleep position
bedclothes (and all that other BS)
co-sleeping
LAST ROUND OF VACCINES and WHICH ONES, SPECIFICALLY
NUMBER of and TYPE of previous vaccines, and their neurotoxic ingredients
Does the child have the MTHFR GENE?
*deeeep sigh*
Any statistician could graph that out 6 ways to Sunday and tell you exactly what is most likely to have occurred and how to prevent it 96% of the time.
The sooner the powers that be simply ask investigators as well as the people who input insurance data such as “Last pediatrician visit and what was the reason for it”, the sooner people can stop doing mental gymnastics and gaslighting those of us who already KNOW the deal.
PS Don’t take out any stock on those ridiculously stupid helmets for misshapen heads on account of back sleeping.
Don’t think too long and hard how every other land mammal in God’s creation sleeps in “pig piles”/“puppy piles” yet they NEVER die, no matter how many wadded up sheets and blankets and puppies they are sleeping on.
Oh, yeah, while you’re finally
looking at the real issues, take a gander at when those ridiculous helmets were put into “normal”, everyday use.
The fact that the entire house of cards has stood this long is mind-bending. I may need one of those helmets myself.
But we give more vaccines, not less, than we did before. You seem like you’ve already made up your mind even though the study you have asked to be designed hasn’t been conducted. If the study you designed came back and showed vaccines had no correlation or significance with relation to vaccines would you put that concern to rest? How you answer that question will tell you whether or not you really care about the truth
+1
The risk factor paradigm of disease causation has never shed any light on any disease one can name. It has led to more blind alleys of medical research but has been a boon for the researchers. Correlations can be found but causes are rarely, if ever, proven with even the slightest degree of scientific validity. Often the data being analyzed are subject to a high degree of error and that would appear to be the case with the SIDs research.
Very good article. Thank you.
With my first baby (1984) I was told that she should sleep on her tummy. She preferred her back. So I let her nap on her back and put her down at night on her tummy. She slept with us half the time, and after nursing I scooted her up and out of the way on her tummy.
With my last baby (1989) I was told that he should sleep on his side. I tried it. Didn’t work. He slept how he wanted to sleep. All of our children slept with us on a regular basis in addition to the bassinet or crib.
One issue that was not addressed here is the occurrence of SIDS proximal to the regular vaccine schedule. Risk factors are skewed by not addressing this fact. The link has been studied, albeit in a limited manner, and the possibility of a link is unpopular in the present day and age.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16231176/
Sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS) shortly after hexavalent vaccination: another pathology in suspected SIDS?
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/257299927_Sudden_Infant_Death_Following_Hexavalent_Vaccination_A_Neuropathologic_Study
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/6835859/
Possible temporal association between diphtheria-tetanus toxoid-pertussis vaccination and sudden infant death syndrome
I appreciate your evenhanded approach to the subject.
Thanks for reading, Candy. And thank you for the links to these articles.
I let my child tummy sleep for naps as a baby because she looked so content. I always felt furtive about it.
The number of deaths attributable to SIDS, which is a diagnosis made after reasonably excluding all other causes, decreased in the US when these deaths were re-classified as asphyxia - either positional, due to unsafe bedding or co-sleeping with an adult. Co-sleeping related deaths were especially associated with adult use of alcohol and/or sedatives including opioids (either prescribed or illegal). In addition - co-sleeping adult obesity, with its attendant sleep disorders, has been noted.
The type of bedding is also implicated - including babies put to sleep on a sofa where they may fall between cushions or on waterbeds.
Getting this information after an infant death is complicated. Parents and caregivers are distraught but may also deny the above mentioned risk factors and death investigation is often incomplete.
Intentional asphyxia usually cannot be proven unless the act is witnessed or a confession elicited.
Nevertheless, when the role of risky co-sleeping and hazardous bedding, together with signs of asphyxia were reasonably sufficient to make a determination of 'positional asphyxia' whether accidental, undetermined or intentional, the overall number of SIDS cases appear to have decreased.
These objective findings clearly made people uncomfortable and had significant sociological implications. The campaign to 'put baby on its back' coincided and was a much friendlier message.
This has been my experience.
Vaccines in babies is the biggest risk factor for SIDS and that it isn’t even examined in this article is laughable at best and extremely inaccurate at worst. The term gaslighting would be well used in this article.
As mentioned by another poster, The Midwestern Doctor’s analysis is much better and accurate on SIDS.
This article is anything BUT sensible medicine. I’d go else were for good, credible medical information.
Exactly! That was my first thought. It was completely missing in the "list" of factors. It's my understanding vaccine status and timing is not disclosed or tracked in the autopsy. Wonder why?
Here is the Midwestern Doctors article for those interested- https://open.substack.com/pub/amidwesterndoctor/p/the-century-of-evidence-that-vaccines?r=p8ht7&utm_medium=ios
Thank you, Abi! Love AMD!
"The authors seem not to have followed up on usual sleep position during the 10-week phone interview, which would have been helpful as 70% of the SIDS infants died after the 10-week mark".
Right after the first big onslaught at 8 weeks of age: HepB dose 2, Rotavirus, Dtap, Hib, Pneumococcal, and Polio. All in a single sitting.
It is a MAJOR oversight, and wilful blindness, not to consider this likely factor in any discussion of SIDS.
I remember seeing an interview with a number of Police Officers who stated that in a full 50% of SIDS cases they are called out to, the infant had been administered vaccines shortly before death.
Surely many have seen A Midwestern Doctor's post that touches upon this and lays out the timing of Sids to the typical vaccine schedule of a child. How is this not mentioned in any/all articles touching upon this decades long 'mystery'?
Because that is a bizarre site with no legitimacy. LBJ held a meeting in the White House in 1968 to plot the genocide of the poor? England in the 1930's killed thousands of Irish orphanage children in vaccine experiments? Ireland had been independent of England for more than a decade so seems hard to believe it could have happened. Of course, the reason given for the DPT related mass murder was "England hated the Irish," so I suppose it must be true.
In which article was the LBJ claim made?
The history of experimentation with vaccines in the US is questionable to the degree even Offit says as much in his book vaccinated. So the idea less than ethical experimentation was going on in Ireland doesn't strike me as far fetched. Do you have a quote for where AMD says its because 'England hated the Irish? Because that is not the style of the substack at all. The material strives to be measured and not offer speculative motives as much as simply report the news of what happened.