This article only continues to confirm my working theory that the widespread failure of paxlovid is entirely the result of interaction with vaccine-induced damage to the immune system (antigenic fixation and likely other injuries as well).
The phenomenon of "paxlovid rebound" is occurring all over the place because viral counts are brough…
This article only continues to confirm my working theory that the widespread failure of paxlovid is entirely the result of interaction with vaccine-induced damage to the immune system (antigenic fixation and likely other injuries as well).
The phenomenon of "paxlovid rebound" is occurring all over the place because viral counts are brought low by paxlovid's enzyme inhibition, but there is little effective immune response during this time- there is no "knockout punch" during the window of opportunity the drug allegedly produces.
Furthermore, I suspect they knew this was likely by the time of the trials- vaccine failure was already visible to insiders if not to the public- and made sure a non-representative sample gave them the results they wanted.
I'm glad my unvaccinated ass hasn't had to experience any of this firsthand.
And it remains my deepest wish that the liars, frauds, and murderers in this worldwide crime spree pay and pay dearly for what they have done.
I have an unvaxxed 70 yo friend who just experienced rebound from Paxlovid. She is however immunocompromised, suffering from systemic scleroderma. And I guess her age counts against her. Non obese though.
She's getting better, thanks! Isn't Paxlovid dangerous for immunocompromised people? In five days it knocks the virus back but the immune system may not be able to fight the uprising post treatment. Brian Mowrey's substack "Unglossed" proposed a mechanism for that.
Paxlovid is not dangerous for immunocompromised patients. There's some discussion of longer courses of it for that subgroup, and there have been some ad hoc trials and case reports of 2nd rounds of Paxlovid in cases of rebound for older patients. No studies I've seen published (or on the preprint servers) have demonstrated an increased risk to immunocompromised patients.
I see the abstract which were 568 patients believed to be unvaccinated but where is the full paper with details? The current 150 inpatients with ~ 79% unvaccinated related to the 568?
I find the asides providing an assessment of motivations somewhat unsettling. Disagreements need not receive such an assessment IMHO.
MD, MPH wrote, "We still, even now, have 150 inpatients admitted with Covid ..."
Q1- Does your hospital still administer the deadly drug Veklury (remdesivir) to some of these patients?
Q2- (If in the United States) Does your hospital still collect a 20% "new drug bonus" provided under "The Cares Act" for administering remdesivir in a hospital setting, to be calculated as 20% of the ENTIRE hospital bill? Find out from your hospital administrators ... they usually do not refuse money ... even blood money such as this.
BTW, the 20% "new drug bonus" for using remdesivir is in addition to $13,000 the hospital collects for each Covid positive admission, and in addition to the $39,000 the hospital collects for putting a Medicare patient on a ventilator.
Your avoidance of specifics and facts, as well as your dismissive tone, hurts YOUR credibility, and makes YOU look like you are not a serious person ... frankly your answer makes you seem more like you might really be a TROLL than an actual doctor.
Too many of you doctors (assuming for the moment that you are a doctor) went along with the institutionalized killing when you should have spoken up, and advocated for early and alternative treatments like the good doctors who did speak out ... Good doctors like Dr. Paul Marik, Dr. Zev Zelenko, Dr. Peter McCullough, and others ... The sheeple doctors just went along with hospital protocol as thousands of their patients kept dying on vents and from remdesivir -- patients who were denied even the right to try an alternative treatment ... Dr. Marik was fired from his job for trying to administer ivermectin.
May God have mercy on the souls of the many frightened sheeple doctors who cared more about keeping their hospital job than the lives of their patients!
"frankly your answer makes you seem more like you might really be a TROLL than an actual doctor. "
My thought also. The "doctor's" responses were argumentative, belittling, and non-professional in tone and content. They differ markedly from those of the rest of the commenters in quality and substance.
“We still, even now, have 150 inpatients admitted with Covid; 79% of them are unvaccinated” This is interesting, and seems to contradict what I’ve found in many states public breakthrough data, especially post omicron. Is this a change? How many of those attributed as unvaccinated could be those with status unknown?
On what would be called a rebound? Where they tested negative, then positive a few days later? That's different from what I've seen: people who didn't quite kick it then got worse.
Unless your testing and reporting are better than, well, just about anyone, your 1000/week is likely closer to 10,000 per week but a subset are getting sufficiently ill to seek care, or worse require hospitalization. This has been attributed to the plethora of BA.1 and BA.2 cases which are providing some immunity to BA.5... enough to moderate the symptoms and reduce the serious illness rate. Those with "up-to-date" vaccinations and prior BA.2 conversion are on the order of 100x less likely to require hospitalization than someone who was solely depending on immunity derived by natural infection.
There were a lot of previously unplanned exits in the Redfield era. I'd love to see CDC leadership get away from political appointees and go back to professional scientists. Virtually all my contacts decided to retire in that period.
Thanks for this — I have not looked at Florida data yet, and this is useful. It is a different picture than from Utah, which I have been watching: https://coronavirus-dashboard.utah.gov/risk.html Which interestingly also though may be starting to show a trend back toward higher severity in the unvaccinated category again.
The progression has differed from region to region and state to state. I recall seeing that the West is picking up again. I've taken a bit of a holiday from analyzing all the stats on a daily basis. So, I'm not surprised you're seeing an uptick in Utah.
We'll see who's still standing when this is all over. Being a true believer won't protect you from justice. Vaccine mandates have been a global war crime, and the truth will out.
Tell yourself whatever you need to in the meantime. I see no need to debate this further, as likely you do not either.
Yeah, these comment threads are disappointing. The Dunning-Krugger effect is strong around these parts. I'm a FM resident and don't agree with some of the COVID policies. Especially masking and vaccinating kids under 5. I don't think it's killing them, I just think the evidence of benefit isn't as robust as people think and that public health is hurting it's credibility even further for little gain. That doesn't mean I don't think some things are beneficial and we're done well. But a lot of people (especially those who will comment) are more towards either extreme viewpoint. Unfortunately it's hard to hold a nuanced view when you don't have the knowledge to do so. We haven't done a great job of teaching people either.
Peter - it is fascinating how you imply you speak from a position of informed, expert nuance, when you actually speak from a position of indoctrinated comfort.
Substacks like this one try to assert that they are "sensible", or that they speak for "common sense" (with Bari Weiss). They adopt the most milquetoast positions - such as that, perhaps, children do not need experimental injections in order to save them from nothing, especially after 45 child deaths have been reported in VAERS:
These 45 deaths are hard evidence. There's also softer but worse evidence, such as a casket salesman reporting that their sales of child-size coffins increased by 500% in 7 months.
Opposing these vaccines for children is an easy case to argue. Most people don't support them. Even most parents who vaccinated themselves won't vaccinate their kids.
But to adopt this most timid of "sensible" positions only scratches the surface of what is wrong. The senseless campaign to inject children with something that will harm them, that won't help anyone, and which they definitely don't need, is just the tiniest tip of the iceberg.
If you are able to face the iceberg, you will find this requires reversing your entire worldview. Once you do that, you will find we're at war, and the injections are the tip of the spear.
Once you see that, you will realize there IS no common sense. Almost no one has any. What passes for "common sense" is common hallucination. The people who want to be "sensible" want to maintain the hallucination, while tackling one or two aspects that stick out the most. They hope to do so while preserving their career, and making it to their imagined retirement.
The truth is way more serious than that they're just killing children. The longer it takes people to figure this out by listening and reading words, the harder the events will hit them.
Paul Offit is on your side regarding vaccinations in young kids, but there are other vaccinologists who disagree. I suspect the reason we don't see as many hospitalizations nor deaths in kids is due to their immature immune system (an admittedly broad statement) and a lower incidence of ACE2 receptors overall. But that's conjecture on my part.
Communication has been lacking throughout this pandemic. I've been working with a large non-profit and have had great difficulty explaining the changes in knowledge with intelligent people who don't understand some of the subtleties we've seen in this virus.
When you consider most of the allergic reactions to the mRNA vaccines are now attributed to PEG allergies, some things start to make sense. That said, PEG is pretty benign in the vast majority of people.
Working with my organization is a near-full-time gig. Explaining why I don't just parrot the CDC recommendations but have to add nuance is tiresome in itself.
If you were a doctor who embraced Covid vaccines when they came out in 2021, then you could, to some extent, be forgiven.
If you are a doctor who still pushes these vaccines today, you are complicit in mass democide. You maintain willful ignorance when patients trust you for life-or-death decisions. You were given education which allows you to evaluate evidence on your own, but you lack the intellectual spine to reach conclusions in stark opposition to your peers and the medical hierarchy. You close your eyes to evidence that short-term deaths, within weeks of these vaccines, are as high as 1:800. That the number of disabled Americans has grown by 3-4 million since January 2021, that birth rates have fallen 5-27% across states and countries, that hundreds of healthy children have died - and that this is likely only the beginning, and the greatest impact of these vaccines (cancers and mass deaths) is yet to come.
As a person like this, your future in the medical profession is short-lived.
By 2025, if you are able to forgive yourself (!!!), you will no longer be a doctor. You will be a shoemaker, or a gardener, or a plumber. But no one will ever again entrust you with their life.
And if you pushed injections on people, there's a substantial probability that you will have to relocate, cut all ties and adopt a new identity, or suffer the anger of the people that you have harmed.
Mark my words: this is one of the last years when you still get respect for being a doctor. It will become a curse word.
Strongly concur with you. Obtaining that knowledge base was time consuming and difficult and has only benefited from years of exposure to patients and disease processes.
Obviously, when people come to different conclusions as yourself, they are not physicians. Except the tens of thousands who are actual physicians. Then, those physicians are quacks.
I'm not here to convince you. Such a task would be impossible. I'm here to warn, so that later, when you have not heeded the warning, you will not be able to claim any excuse.
This article only continues to confirm my working theory that the widespread failure of paxlovid is entirely the result of interaction with vaccine-induced damage to the immune system (antigenic fixation and likely other injuries as well).
The phenomenon of "paxlovid rebound" is occurring all over the place because viral counts are brought low by paxlovid's enzyme inhibition, but there is little effective immune response during this time- there is no "knockout punch" during the window of opportunity the drug allegedly produces.
Furthermore, I suspect they knew this was likely by the time of the trials- vaccine failure was already visible to insiders if not to the public- and made sure a non-representative sample gave them the results they wanted.
I'm glad my unvaccinated ass hasn't had to experience any of this firsthand.
And it remains my deepest wish that the liars, frauds, and murderers in this worldwide crime spree pay and pay dearly for what they have done.
I have an unvaxxed 70 yo friend who just experienced rebound from Paxlovid. She is however immunocompromised, suffering from systemic scleroderma. And I guess her age counts against her. Non obese though.
Age and she's likely taking immunosuppressants for her scleroderma like you said. Hope she's doing okay.
She's getting better, thanks! Isn't Paxlovid dangerous for immunocompromised people? In five days it knocks the virus back but the immune system may not be able to fight the uprising post treatment. Brian Mowrey's substack "Unglossed" proposed a mechanism for that.
Paxlovid is not dangerous for immunocompromised patients. There's some discussion of longer courses of it for that subgroup, and there have been some ad hoc trials and case reports of 2nd rounds of Paxlovid in cases of rebound for older patients. No studies I've seen published (or on the preprint servers) have demonstrated an increased risk to immunocompromised patients.
I see the abstract which were 568 patients believed to be unvaccinated but where is the full paper with details? The current 150 inpatients with ~ 79% unvaccinated related to the 568?
I find the asides providing an assessment of motivations somewhat unsettling. Disagreements need not receive such an assessment IMHO.
MD, MPH wrote, "We still, even now, have 150 inpatients admitted with Covid ..."
Q1- Does your hospital still administer the deadly drug Veklury (remdesivir) to some of these patients?
Q2- (If in the United States) Does your hospital still collect a 20% "new drug bonus" provided under "The Cares Act" for administering remdesivir in a hospital setting, to be calculated as 20% of the ENTIRE hospital bill? Find out from your hospital administrators ... they usually do not refuse money ... even blood money such as this.
BTW, the 20% "new drug bonus" for using remdesivir is in addition to $13,000 the hospital collects for each Covid positive admission, and in addition to the $39,000 the hospital collects for putting a Medicare patient on a ventilator.
Your avoidance of specifics and facts, as well as your dismissive tone, hurts YOUR credibility, and makes YOU look like you are not a serious person ... frankly your answer makes you seem more like you might really be a TROLL than an actual doctor.
Too many of you doctors (assuming for the moment that you are a doctor) went along with the institutionalized killing when you should have spoken up, and advocated for early and alternative treatments like the good doctors who did speak out ... Good doctors like Dr. Paul Marik, Dr. Zev Zelenko, Dr. Peter McCullough, and others ... The sheeple doctors just went along with hospital protocol as thousands of their patients kept dying on vents and from remdesivir -- patients who were denied even the right to try an alternative treatment ... Dr. Marik was fired from his job for trying to administer ivermectin.
May God have mercy on the souls of the many frightened sheeple doctors who cared more about keeping their hospital job than the lives of their patients!
"frankly your answer makes you seem more like you might really be a TROLL than an actual doctor. "
My thought also. The "doctor's" responses were argumentative, belittling, and non-professional in tone and content. They differ markedly from those of the rest of the commenters in quality and substance.
Not sure whether to ask you how many beagles died this week, Tony? ... or what color silk scarf you'll be wearing at this week's presser, Deb?
“We still, even now, have 150 inpatients admitted with Covid; 79% of them are unvaccinated” This is interesting, and seems to contradict what I’ve found in many states public breakthrough data, especially post omicron. Is this a change? How many of those attributed as unvaccinated could be those with status unknown?
I've NEVER heard of one unvaxxed person to get rebound of covid. Do you have data to support your claim?
I'm a resident. I've seen a few people hospitalized more than once for (not just with) COVID.
On what would be called a rebound? Where they tested negative, then positive a few days later? That's different from what I've seen: people who didn't quite kick it then got worse.
Asking this of MD, MPH? Gonna guess their answer is the medrxiv link above, which I at least have yet to, but will read.
Don't forget, kids, unvaccinated also = <2 weeks last jab. Gotta protect those vaccine stats.
I would love to have publicly available anonymized “patient event data” which by individual lists dates of injection(s) and infection(s).
Unless your testing and reporting are better than, well, just about anyone, your 1000/week is likely closer to 10,000 per week but a subset are getting sufficiently ill to seek care, or worse require hospitalization. This has been attributed to the plethora of BA.1 and BA.2 cases which are providing some immunity to BA.5... enough to moderate the symptoms and reduce the serious illness rate. Those with "up-to-date" vaccinations and prior BA.2 conversion are on the order of 100x less likely to require hospitalization than someone who was solely depending on immunity derived by natural infection.
Would be very interested in your reference for this!
I'm looking... in my archives.
Thanks — added that and the two referenced studies to the reading list.
Thanks. THat's the one. I need a better index and search system for the archived articles I've got.
I've focused on COVID epidemiology since... 18 JAN 2020. Yes, that early. I was concerned after I took the time to read the reports I could access.
There were a lot of previously unplanned exits in the Redfield era. I'd love to see CDC leadership get away from political appointees and go back to professional scientists. Virtually all my contacts decided to retire in that period.
Thanks for this — I have not looked at Florida data yet, and this is useful. It is a different picture than from Utah, which I have been watching: https://coronavirus-dashboard.utah.gov/risk.html Which interestingly also though may be starting to show a trend back toward higher severity in the unvaccinated category again.
The progression has differed from region to region and state to state. I recall seeing that the West is picking up again. I've taken a bit of a holiday from analyzing all the stats on a daily basis. So, I'm not surprised you're seeing an uptick in Utah.
>> Typical uninformed antivax verbiage.
We'll see who's still standing when this is all over. Being a true believer won't protect you from justice. Vaccine mandates have been a global war crime, and the truth will out.
Tell yourself whatever you need to in the meantime. I see no need to debate this further, as likely you do not either.
"Politically motivated," in this case, means trying to save humanity from what you are doing to it.
You will hang. Chances are, by your own hand, when you realize what you have done.
Yeah, these comment threads are disappointing. The Dunning-Krugger effect is strong around these parts. I'm a FM resident and don't agree with some of the COVID policies. Especially masking and vaccinating kids under 5. I don't think it's killing them, I just think the evidence of benefit isn't as robust as people think and that public health is hurting it's credibility even further for little gain. That doesn't mean I don't think some things are beneficial and we're done well. But a lot of people (especially those who will comment) are more towards either extreme viewpoint. Unfortunately it's hard to hold a nuanced view when you don't have the knowledge to do so. We haven't done a great job of teaching people either.
Peter - it is fascinating how you imply you speak from a position of informed, expert nuance, when you actually speak from a position of indoctrinated comfort.
Substacks like this one try to assert that they are "sensible", or that they speak for "common sense" (with Bari Weiss). They adopt the most milquetoast positions - such as that, perhaps, children do not need experimental injections in order to save them from nothing, especially after 45 child deaths have been reported in VAERS:
https://metatron.substack.com/p/covid-vaccine-deaths-of-children
These 45 deaths are hard evidence. There's also softer but worse evidence, such as a casket salesman reporting that their sales of child-size coffins increased by 500% in 7 months.
Opposing these vaccines for children is an easy case to argue. Most people don't support them. Even most parents who vaccinated themselves won't vaccinate their kids.
But to adopt this most timid of "sensible" positions only scratches the surface of what is wrong. The senseless campaign to inject children with something that will harm them, that won't help anyone, and which they definitely don't need, is just the tiniest tip of the iceberg.
If you are able to face the iceberg, you will find this requires reversing your entire worldview. Once you do that, you will find we're at war, and the injections are the tip of the spear.
Once you see that, you will realize there IS no common sense. Almost no one has any. What passes for "common sense" is common hallucination. The people who want to be "sensible" want to maintain the hallucination, while tackling one or two aspects that stick out the most. They hope to do so while preserving their career, and making it to their imagined retirement.
The truth is way more serious than that they're just killing children. The longer it takes people to figure this out by listening and reading words, the harder the events will hit them.
Paul Offit is on your side regarding vaccinations in young kids, but there are other vaccinologists who disagree. I suspect the reason we don't see as many hospitalizations nor deaths in kids is due to their immature immune system (an admittedly broad statement) and a lower incidence of ACE2 receptors overall. But that's conjecture on my part.
Communication has been lacking throughout this pandemic. I've been working with a large non-profit and have had great difficulty explaining the changes in knowledge with intelligent people who don't understand some of the subtleties we've seen in this virus.
When you consider most of the allergic reactions to the mRNA vaccines are now attributed to PEG allergies, some things start to make sense. That said, PEG is pretty benign in the vast majority of people.
Working with my organization is a near-full-time gig. Explaining why I don't just parrot the CDC recommendations but have to add nuance is tiresome in itself.
If you were a doctor who embraced Covid vaccines when they came out in 2021, then you could, to some extent, be forgiven.
If you are a doctor who still pushes these vaccines today, you are complicit in mass democide. You maintain willful ignorance when patients trust you for life-or-death decisions. You were given education which allows you to evaluate evidence on your own, but you lack the intellectual spine to reach conclusions in stark opposition to your peers and the medical hierarchy. You close your eyes to evidence that short-term deaths, within weeks of these vaccines, are as high as 1:800. That the number of disabled Americans has grown by 3-4 million since January 2021, that birth rates have fallen 5-27% across states and countries, that hundreds of healthy children have died - and that this is likely only the beginning, and the greatest impact of these vaccines (cancers and mass deaths) is yet to come.
As a person like this, your future in the medical profession is short-lived.
By 2025, if you are able to forgive yourself (!!!), you will no longer be a doctor. You will be a shoemaker, or a gardener, or a plumber. But no one will ever again entrust you with their life.
And if you pushed injections on people, there's a substantial probability that you will have to relocate, cut all ties and adopt a new identity, or suffer the anger of the people that you have harmed.
Mark my words: this is one of the last years when you still get respect for being a doctor. It will become a curse word.
Strongly concur with you. Obtaining that knowledge base was time consuming and difficult and has only benefited from years of exposure to patients and disease processes.
Obviously, when people come to different conclusions as yourself, they are not physicians. Except the tens of thousands who are actual physicians. Then, those physicians are quacks.
I'm not here to convince you. Such a task would be impossible. I'm here to warn, so that later, when you have not heeded the warning, you will not be able to claim any excuse.