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EricP1968's avatar

Terrific from both of you, very humorous the back and forth. Most importantly the debate is civil and enjoyable. I lean towards natural law almost always, cold viruses are unavoidable and my immune system is strong!!!

Whilst I appreciate the vintage Cobain t-shirt, Adam’s pink shirt for the win 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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Richard Tavares Bosshardt's avatar

I applaud Adam and Vinay for their willingness to debate an issue civilly, albeit strongly, and with a dose of humor thrown in. This is how medicine advances and we avoid the tyranny of “consensus” and “experts”. Medicine advances through the time-tested method of hypothesis, experimentation, and peer-review. Results must be reproducible to be valid. The general public relies on us to get our facts straight and provide evidence-based recommendations that they can rely on for their health and well-being. Censorship and cancellation do not belong in medicine, as happened with masking policies and much else that made up the failed management of the Covid pandemic by so-called experts. Fauci famously admitted at last that the six-foot social distancing mandate had no evidence to support it. Let me carry this argument to another issue. I would submit that, if a professional organization, such as the American College of Surgeons leadership is going to claim that the ACS is a structurally racist organization, that surgeons are racists, and the surgery is discriminatory, and even further, advance the odious notion that patients do better if their surgeon is of the same race, they had better provide some evidence for this beyond the existence of disparities. That they shut down and silence anyone who demands to debate this contentious issue just proves that they have moved from being medical professionals to radical ideologues bent on politicizing medicine to achieve an agenda that has nothing to do with good medical care.

Rick Bosshardt, MD, FACS

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