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JohnS's avatar

Is this the benefit?

“The relative risk reduction for those taking statins compared with those who did not was 9% for deaths, 29% for heart attacks and 14% for strokes. Yet the absolute risk reduction of dying, having a heart attack or stroke was 0.8%, 1.3% and 0.4% respectively.”

https://theconversation.com/benefits-of-statins-may-have-been-overstated-new-study-175557?form=MG0AV3

That doesn’t look like much of a benefit to me. Especially when you consider that industry funded studies are biased in favor of their product. For instance, wasn’t the highly influential JUPITER study stopped early? If we had a technique for removing the proven industry bias, then what are the benefits? Why should we trust studies when we know they are biased, especially when the alleged benefit is so small?

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn3781-research-funded-by-drug-companies-is-biased/?form=MG0AV3

If the side effects are nocebo, why is it that people experience the same list of side effects for statins, but not other drugs. I would think every drug would have the same problem, with an identical list. Is it something about the name “statin” that causes users to list the same side effects? What are the harms of taking these drugs for 25 years? How could anyone know?

How do we know statins and lifestyle improvements are better than just lifestyle improvements? Is there a randomized study that compares the two? I can see how it’s plausible that statins create a false sense of security that might inhibit someone from taking better care of themselves.

What about the proven risks, are they irrelevant?

https://www.bmj.com/content/381/bmj-2022-071727?form=MG0AV3

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Dean's avatar

Kudos to the author for informing himself by reading Malhotra and Demasi before weighing in. That said, the dichotomy is real and can be summarized by: "Do you go with lifestyle interventions which will not only lower your cardiac risk but will also improve every aspect of your health and vitality for the rest of your life including lowering your risk of dementia, or pop a pill where it is not clear that the benefits even outweigh the risks and which will be a drag on your overall health for the rest of your life, including possibly increasing your risk of dementia?"

Just an anecdote but a true one: a friend developed joint pain from statins but when he stopped, the pain did not subside. He ended up on prednisone for a year, purely a result of the statins. I don't know the percentage of statin users who develop similar problems but I do know the percentage in those who adopt lifestyle changes: zero. Quite the opposite in fact. That's the dichotomy - positive health benefits all around vs questionable risk/benefit.

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