I agree with Vinay,John, & Adam’s comments about Mayo Clinic’s poor treatment of Mike Joyner…what a difference a few years make…the following excerpt is from an article discussing the recent reprimand that pointed out a different attitude at Mayo not long ago, “In a 2016 Rochester Magazine profile titled “This person is a cheeky heretic,…
I agree with Vinay,John, & Adam’s comments about Mayo Clinic’s poor treatment of Mike Joyner…what a difference a few years make…the following excerpt is from an article discussing the recent reprimand that pointed out a different attitude at Mayo not long ago, “In a 2016 Rochester Magazine profile titled “This person is a cheeky heretic,” Mayo Clinic Proceedings Editor-in-Chief Dr. William Lanier praised Joyner’s challenging approach to communication.
“Whether you agree with him or not, it is always entertaining to hear his ideas, and he is the type of scientist and colleague who constantly encourages us to challenge our thinking as he challenges his own thinking,” Lanier stated at the time.”
It is disheartening to see the loss of intellectual curiosity in so many aspects of our society now beginning to infect the field of medicine. I did not see the CNN interview referred to, but I do know that our inability to have robust & honest discussions around these issues (or focusing on the number offended instead of the actual issue at hand) will result in substandard medical practices and poor policies. Carole Hooven, PhD at Harvard suffered a worse fate than Mike Joyner for giving interviews in her area of expertise—this should not happen to serious scientists!! SEGM (Society for Evidenced based Gender Medicine) and Independent Council on Women’s Sports (ICONS) are two apolitical & secular organizations trying to start these discussions in a respectful way. I hope they gain some traction along with (more broadly for their work on free speech in general) FIRE & FAIR. Thank you for the work you are doing & for having this discussion.
I agree with Vinay,John, & Adam’s comments about Mayo Clinic’s poor treatment of Mike Joyner…what a difference a few years make…the following excerpt is from an article discussing the recent reprimand that pointed out a different attitude at Mayo not long ago, “In a 2016 Rochester Magazine profile titled “This person is a cheeky heretic,” Mayo Clinic Proceedings Editor-in-Chief Dr. William Lanier praised Joyner’s challenging approach to communication.
“Whether you agree with him or not, it is always entertaining to hear his ideas, and he is the type of scientist and colleague who constantly encourages us to challenge our thinking as he challenges his own thinking,” Lanier stated at the time.”
It is disheartening to see the loss of intellectual curiosity in so many aspects of our society now beginning to infect the field of medicine. I did not see the CNN interview referred to, but I do know that our inability to have robust & honest discussions around these issues (or focusing on the number offended instead of the actual issue at hand) will result in substandard medical practices and poor policies. Carole Hooven, PhD at Harvard suffered a worse fate than Mike Joyner for giving interviews in her area of expertise—this should not happen to serious scientists!! SEGM (Society for Evidenced based Gender Medicine) and Independent Council on Women’s Sports (ICONS) are two apolitical & secular organizations trying to start these discussions in a respectful way. I hope they gain some traction along with (more broadly for their work on free speech in general) FIRE & FAIR. Thank you for the work you are doing & for having this discussion.